On August 13, 2024, Kevin Lundberg and Producer Luke joined the show. Former state senator discusses CISA’s warnings about election attacks, the grassroots Protect Kids Colorado petition effort, and analyzes the Tina Peters conviction as an example of process crimes targeting those who challenge election transparency In-studio discussion reviewing Henry Hazlitt’s economic principles, analyzing tariffs as international strategy, criticizing lobbying as a.
Kevin Lundberg, chairman of Protect Kids Colorado, provides an update on the grassroots effort to get parental rights measures on the ballot. Despite collecting signatures from hundreds of volunteers across the state, the initiatives fell short after opposition forces delayed the title board process until late May, compressing the signature-gathering window to just two and a half months. Lundberg explains that the measures would require schools to notify parents when children experience gender incongruence and would prohibit biological males from competing in girls’ sports.
The discussion shifts to the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency’s recent statement warning Americans to expect election system attacks while simultaneously assuring the public that these attacks won’t affect election integrity. Lundberg expresses skepticism, noting CISA’s history as what he describes as a propaganda tool that labels dissenting views as misinformation. He advocates for hand-counted paper ballots at the precinct level with same-day results, the standard in most first-world countries.
“The best way you could put that together would be hand-counted paper ballots at the precinct level with results reported the day of. Just like used to happen and just like does happen in almost any first world country.”
Kevin Lundberg, Former Colorado State Senator
Kim and Kevin Lundberg analyze the conviction of Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters on seven counts related to her efforts to preserve election records before a state-mandated software update. Lundberg argues that Peters was fulfilling her statutory obligation to maintain election records for 26 months when the software vendor attempted to overwrite existing data. He notes the judge severely limited the defense’s ability to present witnesses explaining why Peters took her actions, reducing the trial to narrow procedural questions rather than the broader issues of election transparency.
The conversation draws parallels to January 6th prosecutions, with Lundberg sharing that his neighbor John Strand had just returned from federal prison after the Supreme Court ruled the Department of Justice misinterpreted the law used to prosecute J6 defendants. These cases, Lundberg argues, demonstrate how government agencies target those who challenge the establishment narrative.
Producer Luke joins Kim for a continuing review of Henry Hazlitt’s Economics in One Lesson, focusing on chapters covering tariffs, exports, and parity prices. Luke explains that while he generally agrees with Hazlitt’s anti-tariff stance, he sees tariffs as a legitimate tool of international strategy when dealing with adversarial nations. He cites the current U.S.-Russia situation, where American sanctions simply pushed Russia toward closer economic ties with China.
The discussion examines China’s use of government-subsidized industries to undercut American competitors, with Kim noting that former guest Helen Raleigh, who immigrated from China, came to view tariffs as one of the few remaining tools to counter unfair trade practices. Luke argues that ideas and industries should stand on their own without government subsidies, and he offers a sharp critique of lobbying as a system that places power in the hands of those with the most money rather than the best ideas.
“Lobbying is one of the worst things this country has ever allowed to happen because it’s sort of, in its own strange way, reinvented a sort of pseudo-feudal system wherein power lies with those who hold the most money, not those who have the best ideas.”
Producer Luke, Crawford Broadcasting
Kim challenges Luke on an apparent contradiction in modern attitudes toward slavery. Young Americans have been taught to disparage the Founding Fathers for owning slaves, yet they readily purchase products manufactured by slave labor in China without moral concern. Luke acknowledges the disconnect, explaining that modern slave labor feels far removed and thus easier to ignore, while America’s historical slavery remains more immediate in cultural memory.
Producer Joe adds that people seem upset that slavery happened at all, rather than recognizing that societies learn from mistakes and strive to improve. Kim emphasizes that those teaching contempt for the founders seek to undermine the foundational principles they established, particularly the self-evident truth that all men are created equal with God-given rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
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