On January 29, 2024, Scott Powell and Stacey Wands joined the show. Powell outlines how China is systematically subverting American institutions through elite capture and exploitation of normalcy bias, while praising the 26 states supporting Texas at the border Wands shares how losing her daughter Trinity three hours after birth led to a profound spiritual transformation and offers practical wisdom for combating.
Scott Powell, author of Rediscovering America: How Our National Holidays Tell an Amazing Story About Who We Are, sounds the alarm on what he calls the 16-point demolition plan being executed against America. Powell explains that behind this systematic destruction is Red China, which practices Sun Tzu’s art of war to defeat enemies without firing a shot.
Powell identifies two key psychological barriers preventing Americans from addressing these threats: normalcy bias and denial. The normalcy bias leads Americans to assume that institutions which have worked throughout their lives will continue to function, even as they have been hollowed out from within. Powell compares America’s institutions to a wooden building infested with termites, where the beams appear intact but are hollow inside.
The discussion turns to elite capture, where Chinese agents compromise powerful individuals through bribes or honey traps like those run by Jeffrey Epstein. Powell points to the Biden family as an example of compromised leadership, citing the 21 shell companies discovered by the Commerce Committee. The conversation also addresses the border crisis, with Powell noting that 26 states have now pledged to help Texas defend the southern border, representing a significant pushback against federal inaction.
“Most of our institutions are now hollowed out, but we have the normalcy bias, which is that we still see the beams there and we still assume they’re going to function when, in fact, we’re in very deep trouble because our institutions are internally hollowed out and ineffective.”
Scott Powell, Senior Fellow, Discovery Institute
Stacey Wands shares her deeply personal story of losing her daughter Trinity just three hours after birth in 2006. The author of Losing My Child, Finding My God: From Grief to Belief describes how this devastating loss became the catalyst for her spiritual transformation, with the Lord healing her heart in less than a year.
Wands recounts how she and her husband grieved differently but were able to give each other space while supporting one another. When she became pregnant with twins the following year, fear initially gripped her. She describes how the Lord spoke to her, telling her to turn her back on fear and focus on praise and thanksgiving. This simple but powerful instruction became a lifelong tool for combating fear.
During the interview, Wands shares a profound moment of connection with God during a journaling session, when she felt Him say “I see what you see and I feel what you feel.” This realization that Christ is present within believers, closer than sitting across a table, transformed her prayer life and brought immediate comfort during difficult moments. Wands emphasizes the importance of reading the entire Bible and notes that her book includes her husband’s perspective in Appendix A, offering men a manageable entry point into understanding infant loss from a father’s viewpoint.
“I felt him say, I see what you see and I feel what you feel. And that was so powerful to me. I had never had the thought that he actually sees through my eyes and he understands my perspective perfectly. So I don’t even have to say a word.”
Stacey Wands, Author
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