On Thursday, June 5, 2025, Kim Monson welcomed Brad Beck, co-founder of Liberty Toastmasters, for an in-studio discussion and Susan Kochevar, owner of the 88 Drive-In Theater, by phone to explore the unsealed Epstein files, why Americans have lost trust in their institutions, and what it means to preserve property rights and constitutional governance in an era of expanding government power.
Brad Beck argues that property rights form the bedrock of American prosperity and individual liberty. Beck traces how the ability to own and control property, whether physical land, a small business, or intellectual creations, distinguishes the American experiment from other systems. He warns that increasing regulations on small businesses and entrepreneurs threaten this foundation.
Beck explains that large corporations can absorb regulatory burdens with dedicated HR departments and legal teams, but mom-and-pop operations lack those resources. The result is a system that pressures smaller enterprises while protecting established interests. He urges listeners to support local businesses whenever possible, recognizing the perseverance required to survive in the current regulatory environment.
“If we don’t have property rights, we don’t have freedom. Ultimately, that is why the United States of America has been so successful.”
Brad Beck, Co-founder of Liberty Toastmasters
Brad Beck challenges the premise of airport security screening, questioning why American citizens face intrusive searches while border security remains inadequate. He recounts personal experiences with TSA pat-downs despite having Clear and TSA PreCheck, calling the system a false sense of security that treats law-abiding citizens as suspects.
Beck contrasts this approach with what he considers the proper constitutional order: secure national borders that would eliminate the need for internal checkpoints. He views the current arrangement as an inversion of priorities, where government hassles its own citizens while failing to control who enters the country. The Fourth Amendment prohibition against unreasonable searches, Beck argues, should protect Americans at airports just as it does elsewhere.
“Why are the American people being hassled every time they go through an airport? I mean, if we had secure borders all the time, we wouldn’t have to do this. If I was running for president, my number one thing would be to get rid of homeland security at every airport and protect the borders.”
Brad Beck, Co-founder of Liberty Toastmasters
Susan Kochevar questions why the Epstein files remain largely unreleased despite promises of transparency. She notes that Dan Bongino recently stated Jeffrey Epstein killed himself, a position Kochevar finds difficult to accept given reports that prison cameras went dark for several hours. She points to Attorney General Pam Bondi’s previous role as Florida attorney general, where the Epstein case originated, and expresses frustration that more information has not emerged.
Kochevar connects this opacity to a broader pattern of distrust that crystallized during the COVID-19 pandemic. She recalls how government officials and experts provided misinformation, how Bill Barr’s tenure raised questions, and how the Biden administration concealed concerns about the president’s cognitive decline. This accumulation of perceived deceptions, she argues, has made it nearly impossible for citizens to trust official pronouncements on any matter of importance.
“I think that a lot of our politicians could potentially have been and may be being blackmailed, because we’re sure seeing some odd behavior out of those folks. So I don’t know what’s going on there, but I’m very disappointed in that information not being released and getting to the bottom of what happened there.”
Susan Kochevar, Owner of 88 Drive-In Theater
Susan Kochevar outlines structural reforms she believes would restore accountability to Congress. She targets lifetime pay for former members, exemptions from laws that apply to ordinary citizens, and the practice of buying positions on powerful committees through fundraising. These arrangements, Kochevar argues, attract people to Congress for the wrong reasons or corrupt those who arrive with good intentions.
She references Representative Thomas Massie’s claims about handlers who advise members on how to vote in exchange for campaign contributions. While acknowledging that various interests lobby Congress, Kochevar maintains the founders never intended for representatives to serve interests other than their constituents. Beck adds caution about attributing undue influence to any single group, noting that many organizations across the political spectrum seek access to elected officials.
“These are structural things that really need to be fixed, because I think it allows people to go into Congress for the wrong reasons. Or maybe they go in for the right reasons and they get stuck in this muck.”
Susan Kochevar, Owner of 88 Drive-In Theater
Brad Beck addresses concerns about artificial intelligence development, reframing the acronym as “actual intelligence” to emphasize that human creativity drives these systems. He rejects calls to halt technological advancement, arguing that adversaries like China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea will not pause their own development programs.
Beck advocates for a balanced approach: develop AI capabilities to maintain competitive advantage while establishing oversight mechanisms to protect individual rights. He points to recent examples of technology’s strategic value, including Ukrainian drone operations in Russia and Israeli operations against Hezbollah using modified communication devices. The choice, Beck suggests, is not whether AI will advance but whether the United States will lead that advancement or cede the field to authoritarian regimes.
“If we don’t develop it to its fullest potential, our adversaries will. And we don’t want China or Russia or Iran or North Korea to get ahead of us on this.”
Brad Beck, Co-founder of Liberty Toastmasters
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