On October 22, 2024, Brad Beck, Bonnie Brown, Jon Boesen, and Ramey Johnson joined the show. Discussed the power of persuasion over force using Aesop’s fable, celebrated Liberty Toastmasters’ 15th anniversary, and analyzed ballot measures through the lens of informed citizenship Exposed Pro Animal Future’s radical agenda behind Denver ballot measures seeking to ban fur sales and close Superior Farms lamb processing facility, defending ranchers and.
Brad Beck opens the broadcast by invoking Aesop’s fable of the wind and the sun to illustrate that persuasion outperforms force in changing hearts and minds. The co-founder of Liberty Toastmasters, celebrating 15 years of the organization, explains how effective oral communication and active listening form the foundation of civic engagement.
Beck emphasizes that the founders understood this principle: they debated vigorously but reached consensus through reasoned argument, not coercion. He contrasts this with modern social media culture where young people seek quick hits rather than substantive understanding. The discussion touches on Amendment 80, school bond measures, and the importance of reading beyond ballot question summaries to understand the full text of proposed amendments.
“Persuasion is much more powerful than force.”
Brad Beck, Co-founder, Liberty Toastmasters
Bonnie Brown, Executive Director of the Colorado Wool Growers Association, sounds the alarm on Denver Ordinances 308 and 309. The measures would ban fur sales and close Superior Farms, a lamb processing facility that has operated in Denver for decades. Brown exposes Pro Animal Future as a radical activist group with the stated goal of ending livestock production nationwide, starting in Denver.
Brown reveals that 95 percent of Americans choose to eat animal protein, yet a 4-5 percent minority seeks to dictate consumer choices through ballot measures. She addresses disinformation about the facility allegedly polluting waterways, clarifying that a minor rainwater runoff reporting issue was corrected and the plant maintains a wastewater agreement with Denver. The Colorado wool industry, she notes, supplied fabric for six Olympic team blazers worn at the Paris games.
“Nobody should be telling anybody what they should or should not eat.”
Bonnie Brown, Executive Director, Colorado Wool Growers Association
Jon Boesen of Boesen Law joins to discuss the growing danger of uninsured motorists on Colorado roads. With 34 years of personal injury experience, Boesen warns that T-bone collisions at intersections produce some of the most severe injuries he encounters. He advises drivers to look left and right before proceeding on green lights, especially at night.
The conversation takes a personal turn when Producer Luke shares that his brother was T-boned just days earlier by a driver who ran a red light. Boesen stresses that attentiveness and awareness can prevent many accidents, urging listeners to avoid the automatic pilot mentality that leads to tragedy.
“If folks are just really aware of what’s going on around them, so many accidents can be avoided.”
Jon Boesen, Boesen Law
Ramey Johnson, Republican candidate for House District 30, brings firsthand observations from walking the district’s streets in Edgewater and northeast Lakewood. She identifies a legislative failure: downgrading substance abuse offenses from felonies to misdemeanors has removed incentives for police intervention and court-mandated treatment.
Johnson proposes reinstating felony-level offenses with mandatory inpatient treatment as an alternative to incarceration. She references the underutilized state mental hospital in Pueblo, which once housed 5,000-6,000 patients but now serves fewer than 500. Her policy draws from conversations with Jeffco Mental Health and homeless individuals themselves, including women who refuse shelters due to violence and theft inside.
“We don’t want to be addicted, we want help and we want treatment.”
Ramey Johnson, Candidate, House District 30
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